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“Ordain Women” Movement
My thoughts on the “Ordain Women” Movement with the LDS church…
Honestly, I believe the priesthood is no longer needed per the bible. The Mormon’s view of the priesthood is completely false doctrine. During the time of Moses, the priesthood was a job given to their blood line. They were in charge of the sacrificial offerings given by the people to God. They took care of the tabernacle too. The priesthood is a job, not a magical mystical power. When Christ died on the cross the need for that job given only to that bloodline/family was no longer needed. The greatest sacrifice (Christ’s death) was given. The sins of the world were paid for in his blood! The proof even was in the ripping of the curtain in the temple to the Holy of the Holies room where the 1 sacrifice a year was done. There was no need for sacrifices anymore. The mechezidek (spelling?) priesthood was ONLY HELD BY CHRIST. It was not something anyone else held. It’s in the bible. Look it up… So in regards to the “Ordain Women” movement, I support them that they are wanting equality, but on the bases that its a needed priesthood men and women should have, I find it unnecessary and full of blasphemy. I wish they would research the bible. The LDS church is full of skewed doctrine! It is a false religion.
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I Want My Name Removed!
I’ve had a few friends ask about the process I went through to leave the church, so for easy access and your advantage I’ll tell you. I’ve heard horror stories of people trying to leave the church before. The church will tell you no or they’ll demand additional things or even tell you you have to go through a church court to be excommunicated or something like that… The truth is you don’t need to do anything but express your wish to leave. Legally they are an organization and you are free to leave at any time. You do not need to be there.
Why should you ask to have your information removed from church records? For me it was a cathartic means to an end. I also no longer would have random people contacting me from the church, I wouldn’t have the missionaries stopping over (even though before I even came out that I wanted to leave the church they told the missionaries to stop coming). Basically the church no longer had a hold on me and I wanted to be as far removed from them as possible. When I figured out the truth and history of the church I was so angry and hurt that I’d dedicated my life to them that I couldn’t even stand the sound or sight of the LDS church. I wanted to run into the church building and tell everyone what I knew. I wanted to get up on the stage on Fast Testimony Sunday and tell everyone that Joseph Smith was a liar and this is how I knew… So to throw it in the church’s face literally I decided it was time for me to remove my name from the fake number of 15 million members.
My first letter: I actually emailed the church. For months I’d been trying to write a letter to send in the actual mail, but one night my anger got the better of me and I just emailed it. It was quick, painless, and actually worked… And I didn’t have to waste a stamp.
Emailed to: msr-confrec@ldschurch.org
***Add my full name including my maiden name
***Birth Date
***Record Number (You don’t have to if you don’t know it.
***Current AddressMonday, September 30, 2013
Member Records Division, LDS Church
50 E North Temple Rm 1372
SLC UT 84150-5310This letter is my formal resignation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and it is effective immediately. I hereby withdraw my consent to being treated as a member and I withdraw my consent to being subject to church rules, policies, beliefs and ‘discipline’. As I am no longer a member, I want my name permanently and completely removed from the membership rolls of the church.
I have given this matter considerable thought. I understand what you consider the ‘seriousness’ and the ‘consequences’ of my actions. I am aware that the church handbook says that my resignation “cancels the effects of baptism and confirmation, withdraws the priesthood held by a male member and revokes temple blessings” I also understand that I will be “readmitted to the church by baptism only after a thorough interview”. (Quotes from the current Church Handbook of Instructions.)
My resignation should be processed immediately, without any ‘waiting periods’. I am not going to be dissuaded and I am not going to change my mind.
I expect this matter to be handled promptly, with respect and with full confidentiality.
After today, the only contact I want from the church is a single letter of confirmation to let me know that I am no longer listed as a member of the church.
Sincerely,
Mrs. Marie C. Conlon
After sending this letter I received a letter in the mail from the LDS church.
Snail Mail from the Church:
Letter Reads:
October 2, 2013
Dear Sister Conlon,
I have been asked to acknowledge your recent letter in which you requested that your name be removed from the membership records of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I have also been asked to inform you that the Church considers such a request to be an ecclesiastical matter that must be handled by local priesthood leaders before being processed by Church employees. Therefore, your letter and a copy of this reply are being sent to President (Stake President) of the (Stake I’m in). He will have Bishop (brand new bishop) of the (ward I’m in) Ward contact you concerning the fulfillment of your request.
In view of the eternal consequences of such an action, the Brethren urge you to reconsider your request and to prayerfully consider the enclosed statement of the First Presidency.
Sincerely,
Confidential Records
[Enclosed]
What Next:
Well I’d been warned by other former members that this might happen. My advice to you, if you really want to get out of the church – BE PROACTIVE!!! Do whatever you’ve got to do to make sure the church holds up their side of this deal. Don’t wait for the church to come to you. They never will. Remember, they need your membership. They’re hoping that all the red tape will make you annoyed or disheartened and just give up. They’re counting on that! That’s how their membership which says 15 million is actually closer to 5 million. There are over 10 million members who have left the church but never officially resign!! Stop being counted as one of their ever growing bunch!!! The LDS Church membership is dropping at a record pace they don’t know what to do! Why do you think they’re currently posting everything they can about the awkward history of the LDS Church right now? Because people are finding out the truth AND LEAVING!!! And it’s not just a couple thousand, it’s millions! The truth is coming out. Thomas S. Monson is currently being taken to court for fraud!! I’m telling all of you the truth!!! This Church is a bunch of LIES!!!!
Anyway, back to what to do next now that you’ve got this letter. Be proactive. I went onto the LDS.Org website and looked up the ward I was in according the my address. They list the bishop and counselors contact information along with the stake president. Both my bishop and my stake president just so happened to have their email addresses listed so I emailed them both a copy of the first email I sent to the LDS Membership Records. I also CC’d the membership records.
The very next morning I received a response from the Bishop…
Dear Mrs. Conlon.:I am prepared to act on your request immediately, but I cannot move forward until I have a signed letter from you. The message you sent will do, if you simply print it out, and sign it. Please send the letter to:[His Home Address]Regards,[Name]Bishop, Vista 3rd Ward
Mr. [bishop],
As I’m sure you’ve been made aware by the Church Membership Records department, my request was received on October 2, 2013 and acknowledged. I was informed that you would have to do your part in signing paperwork and sending it in. No further action was to be done on my end. Once this letter of resignation was received by the Church, my resignation was complete.This email constitutes as a legal, binding document per the Electronic Signatures In Global and National Commerce Act.Please complete your process and send in the documentation for my removal. If my request continues to be delayed I will involve my attorney and press for legal action.
Sincerely,Mrs. Marie C. Conlon[Enclosed photograph of letter from the Church]
Mrs. Conlon:I went ahead and submitted your request and attached the unsigned email. President [name] just texted me that he completed his part of the process. When I hear from Salt Lake, I will let you know.Regards,[Bishop’s name, no title]
And one day more… October 9, 2013
Dear Mrs. Conlon:Your name has been removed from church records, as you requested. To maintain confidentiality only the principal ward leaders will be notified. This should ensure that you will not be contacted by home teachers, visiting teachers or any others in an official capacity.I believe you already know that should you want to fellowship with us again, you will be welcome. Furthermore, the way is open for your baptism and restoration of blessings. In all likelihood I will be the bishop in this area for many years. If there is anything I can ever do for you, you have only to ask.I remain, sincerely, your brother,[Bishop’s name, no title]
ME: “Thank you very much. Will I be receiving an official letter via mail stating this?”BISHOP:“Dear Mrs. Conlon:I do not know if additional confirmation of this change will be sent from Church Headquarters. I asked President [Name], but he didn’t know either. As far as I can tell from the handbook, it is my responsibility to notify you. That is why I emailed you as soon as I noticed your name was deleted from the ward roster by Salt Lake. It seemed rather abrupt, but then, that was your request.– Bishop Huyett”
One LDS Girl From Provo 